Nate Habermeyer, APR: 0:00

Hello listeners. This is the risky planner podcast. Thanks for tuning in.

Unknown: 0:11

Hello, Albert. Hey Nate, how you doing? I'm all right. How are you? I knew

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 0:15

him very well. I'm really excited to have this conversation with you today. Oh, and what conversation is that that is about our podcast. That's right, we have a podcast. We have a podcast, folks, believe it or not, the risky planner.

Unknown: 0:29

Now for some of you, this is not coming as a surprise, because you've already been listening to the podcast, which, in fact, has been out for some time.

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 0:35

Now, I'm not good at keeping secrets either. Yeah, indeed, the podcast is for professionals that we work with that are responsible for project management, project controls, risk management for capital projects. You know, they're tackling complex project delivery challenges, as we like to say, Yeah, estimating, scheduling, supply chain, etc, etc. What else are they? What else are these folks handling

Unknown: 1:01

Well, let's get into that in a bit. But first, why don't we introduce ourselves? Will you say like our audience know who they're doing?

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 1:07

Where are my manners? Where are my manners? Albert? Who are you? I

Unknown: 1:11

am Albert Breyer, and I am our director of Project controls at occasion company. I have been doing project controls or project management in some form or another for the past 16 years. That's right, I've had the privilege of working on lots of different kinds of projects and different sectors for a whole bunch of different clients, lots of financial stuff, lots of RFP reviews. Back in the day, I've managed projects. I've managed project controls organizations have set up new processes. I've built out new system stacks and that sort of thing. So Anna and

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 1:45

your purveyor of metaphors, that's true. I'm Nate Habermeyer. I'm director of marketing at DOCA, national company, and I can't really think of an industry I haven't done marketing in. I mean, Barbie and armored vehicle manufacturer who were clients of yours at the same time, were clients of mine at the same time. And actually, I was going back through my experience, and not only were those two clients, but I was also working with a international casino conglomerate based in Las Vegas that you would probably recognize, and working for them and JPR. So, I mean, like the trifecta, yeah, trick, I guess so Barbie armored vehicle and casinos. But I have 20 years of experience and building demand and awareness for all kinds of different brands, and now I'm with do kanish, what and what does do? Canish and company do Albert.

Unknown: 2:46

So dokannish and company is a company that sits right at the intersection of project controls and system implementations. So we have our roots over 10 years ago on in our founder, Tariq dokaish, going off and combing the nuclear industry for opportunities to improve their digital processes and their software stack and their PMOS and so, yeah, we had a very small team back then that went and did some some pretty exciting work, including helping to establish one of the PMOS for well, the PMO for OPG that has recently won Two awards for its That's right, it's an internationally recognized high quality PMO, and that's us. That's the start of who we are. So from there, we've expanded our service to include all kinds of things like staff augmentation for project management, project controls, system implementation, process improvements. That's

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 3:38

right. Organizational change management is key to that. Albert, why is it called the risky planner?

Unknown: 3:44

Well, Nate, I'm so glad you asked. It speaks to the heart of what we do as a company and what this podcast is going to be all about. That's right, that's it's about the intersection of risk and planning and all that that entails. And I'm a big believer that risk is everything in project management, almost everything that any project manager, project controls manager does on a daily basis is to control risk. Risky planning is planning, in my view, it's all the same. The second reason why it's called the risky planner Nate is because that's one of the names that was available on the internet. The URL was there. The URL was there. Nobody had a podcast by this name. There's 9000 podcasts for every topic, you guys. So the

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 4:29

risky planner, I mean, the whole impetus for this podcast, and it's really focused on our audience that are executive sponsors of capital projects or change initiatives, digital transformations at their organizations. It's for project managers, risk managers, business analysts, that are anybody

Unknown: 4:48

in the capital projects ecosystem really should get something out

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 4:51

of it, exactly, and that's what we talk about. We what kind of things do we talk about on the risky planner? Well,

Unknown: 4:57

we've had. A bunch of episodes already in the can, and we've talked about all kinds of stuff. It's usually somewhat timely. It's already it's somewhat news. Newsy. It truly is. Yeah, we try to keep up to date on the state of the art and project management, and try to tie that into current events to the extent that we can, you

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 5:19

know. And in all seriousness, like the political, socio economic, you know, whatever combination of those words you want to talk about, I mean, you know, whatever is happening at that level is trickling down. It's affecting the folks that we work with on a day to day basis, and it's affecting the projects that they're trying to deliver successfully.

Unknown: 5:37

So we try to bring all that stuff together. We try to make it entertaining interesting. It's well researched and informative, but it's also short. We keep it light. The tone is conversational, and we said earlier that it's for Project professionals, and it is, but I'd like to think that it's for anybody who is interested in learning more about how this world functions.

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 5:58

And we're pretty funny guys. Yeah, we're hilarious guys, as you can tell

Unknown: 6:03

from this intro episode. The other reason why we're doing this Nate is because there's a lot of stuff that every project does that just doesn't work. That's right. So what? Well, good example is approving projects with numbers that are absolutely unachievable, schedule targets, cost targets, not enough contingency not enough accounting for risk, hence the title, those kinds of things. It's absolutely across the industry, across all industries, that projects are not approved with a fulsome, robust, rigorous planning exercise underpinning them, and that leads to a lot of risky deliveries, not just risky planning. So we want to shine a spotlight on some of those practices and talk about how you can avoid them and do that sort of thing. We tell stories from real projects that we've worked on, not always from projects. Nate is a wellspring of insane stories from his checkered past. So

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 7:02

just a little bit. And I think what's really fun for me is when we do talk about sort of the pain points and the traditional approaches that are failing, we're also talking about what will work. Yeah. So what should people expect? Albert, well, it

Unknown: 7:20

should expect interesting topics, short episodes, you know, usually around 30 to 40 minutes, which very consumable, very consumable. So we cover a wide variety of topics. They all intersect with capital project planning and risk in some way. What kind of topics? Well, we've got episodes on data centers, on AI, on the impact of uncertainty in capital project planning. We talk about the establishment of new PMOS and how they differ from their historical counterparts. We talk about the most recently, we talked about tariffs on an episode we even we both attended mine Expo earlier this year, actually was last year, and put a pretty good episode together about that. That's so much fun, so much fun,

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 8:05

so much fun. Disneyland for adults, like

Unknown: 8:09

is the title of episode one, so go give that a look. But yeah, we are. Our format is more or less what you're hearing now. It's a conversation between me and my good buddy, Nate. We start with a quick story. Usually, Nate tells an engaging story from his, as I said earlier, checkered past. That's right. Then we move into the topic, you know, we talk to each other about what's going on in Union capital projects as it pertains to our topic for the month. And then we end with a piece of advice, where I draw from research and personal experience and our clients heavily anonymized experience to deliver some advice to any planners out there looking to do whatever we were talking about just a little bit better. And of course, we are always looking for new topics. Yep, so we'd be happy to hear from you guys about things you want to hear.

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 8:55

Yeah, that's right. We hope you'll tune in. Give us a subscribe. We're available on your favorite platform, your favorite podcast. We're probably available, available on your least favorite platform, also there as well. I don't know which one that is, but for Albert, it's apple. That's right. Um, so give us a subscribe. As Albert said, if you have any ideas on topics you'd like to hear us unpack and our opinions that you'd like Albert to opine on, then shoot us a note, and

Unknown: 9:24

we can, we can be found very, very easily on LinkedIn, both of us, that's right, and@riskyplanner.com

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 9:31

and do canish.com as well.

Unknown: 9:34

That's it. That's it. Hit that subscribe button and give us a listen, because I think it's worth your time and you'll enjoy it. So you let us know what you think you will

Nate Habermeyer, APR: 9:41

you would. That's a guarantee, else Or else. Thanks for listening. Y'all. Thank you very much. Nate, thanks Albert, Bye, everybody.

Unknown: 9:52

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